No torque convertor, it's a Dual clutch gearbox.My S3 was manual only because they didn't offer the S tronic at the time, I would have had one of them if they had offered it when I got mine.I've got the DSG box (the old name/VW name for the box) in my R36, and it is, for me, fantastic. Very smooth, very quick gear changes, the only complaint I have is that manual mode doesn't give you full full manual, it will still change up at the limiter. The new 7 speed S tronic is very well regarded, but I would probably suggest testdriving it as there seems to be a marmite thing to it which varies person to person and car to car. Not much to add to what has been said, it is a very good system. Smooth in auto mode and very quick changes when pushed hard through the rev range.Only fault I feel with it is they can be a bit delayed when you want to pull out from standstill, e.g.
A small gap in the traffic you need to zip into it can delay putting the power down for a second and then suddenly 'catch' and shoot you out of the junction. Over time I've learn the right amount of throttle to use to minimise the pick up but it can be a bit hairy at first. Click to expand.Indeed, the DSG is lightning fast compared to any other current dual clutch contender. It is very smooth as well as a result of this fast shift time.To remove the down side as mentioned by eriedor, hold it on the brake with the left foot, accelerate as you prepare to pull out, then release the brake.
It queues up all the electronics to pull away, rather than surprising them by jumping on the accelerator. I too experienced this in my Mk5 GTI, but you soon get used to it.
Holding the brake stops the revs rising and and positions the clutch at almost biting point. Click to expand.The 8ms is the upshift time to a pre-selected gear. That is, for example, changing from 1st to 2nd where 2nd is already selected on the even gear clutch.Downshifts and shifts where the behaviour is abnormal (for example pulling the shift paddle while holding a steady cruise in 5th) are a bit longer, up to a maximum of 600ms per gear, or potentially 1100ms for something completely the opposite of what was anticipated by the ECU. But as the 60ms quoted by Ferrari is also anticipated upshift time, the same caveats apply.In general though, the learning ECU means you rarely see the longer shift times on the DSG box. I have seen that figure in a lot of places, and it's what I believed until recently, but I'm struggling to really be sure of it. There's no mention of it anywhere on VW's consumer or press websites, even going back years. Additionally, VW's website currently states 'less than 40ms' for the DSG and DSG7 (though I realise that transmission does have some differences).I am personally interested in this.
I will see what I can find out from Volkswagen UK today.Is that any power or 'full' power as if the gear was fully engaged? Depending on the vehicle speed, and amount of engine power being requested by the driver (full throttle, or part-throttle normal driving),4 the DSG then upshifts. During this sequence, the DSG disengages the first outer clutch whilst simultaneously engaging the second inner clutch (all power from the engine is now going through the second shaft), thus completing the shift sequence. This sequence happens in 8 milliseconds (aided by pre-selection), and can happen even with full throttle opening, and as a result, there is virtually no power loss.Downshifting is similar to upshifting but in reverse order, and is slower, at 600 milliseconds, due to the engine ECU needing to 'blip' the throttle, so that the engine crankshaft speed can match the appropriate gear shaft speed. The car's computer senses the car slowing down, or more power required (during acceleration), and thus engages a lower gear on the shaft not in use, and then completes the downshift.
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